1 Megawatt Fuel Cell Power Plant
This is a video of a 1 megawatt Fuel Cell Power Plant at California State University, Northridge, in Los Angeles, CA. The power plant has a reformer that separates hydrogen from natural gas and then feeds the hydrogen into a fuel cell, generating electricity. The plant also recovers the heat generated and uses it for domestic heating on campus. In the future, some of the carbon emitted will be sequestered in a sub-tropical rainforest that is under construction. While at present this power …
the point is they have the fuel cell installed, so it can now be powered by hydrogen from anywhere.
All due respect, but they just want to sell all the natural gas that is abundant in the northern regions of Canada and Russia. No-one seems to care about the evironment or efficency, they just want to lead you to another “feul” that they can charge you for.
yeah, but the point is that you can power it with hydrogen from anything… if you wanted to you could power it with water, you would just need a boron catalyst to split the water…
you can make it completely clean if you want to pretty easily… solar+wind+hydroelectric etc… provides power to electrolyze water, the H2 from that is then used to power these with O2 from the air which gives abundant electricity.
Also Fusion power is beginning to rear its head, its not ready for full scale testing yet but its getting better all the time, the energy from that would be far in advance of anything we have today and the byproduct is helium… which is inert.
Yes you can. But 700C is a lower temperature than what you get from burning coal (~2000C) so you can’t recover as much energy. Also the cost of turning that heat into electricity is uneconomical because hooking up a secondary rankine cycle or something would be really expensive.
Wht do you say adding an ORC would be expensive…or uneconomical? I watched this video and secondary ORC was all I could think about. I’m not sure what volume of hot water (it takes alot) could be supplied, but at 700F it should be doable I would think. The whole issue as I see it would be “what volume can be supplied”? ORC systems are comparably inexpensive, and the costs can be further reduced with inlet temps. in the 700 degree range. Tell me your thoughts…I’m interested.
One more thought….were talking about secondary recovery here. You aren’t going to be recovering any secondary heat from a coal fired power plant in the 2000 degree range…are you? Also, there are coal fired plants utilizing ORC seconday recovery for electrical generation. I believe United Technologies in partnership with Ormat has done a number of these. I’m just an interested novice, but I’ve worked in electrical generation and always looked at that hot discharge water and wondered, what if?
Very Cool!
Liberals won’t let us do this I think all countries but no liberals always get in the way with this In United states because they don’t know to do it and they don’t want to know at all
To simplify the situation just all that needs to be done is use some low current electrolosis on some tap water like using stainless steel plates and 12 volt dc and in return you get HHO… 2 parts Pure Hydrogen with 1 Part Oxygen…You burn that you get 3000+ flame…just run a huge Generator (Engine) or Gas Turbine Engine and convert the torque to a generator…Fuck Heads!!..and guess what all the waste you get is WATER VAPOUR…H20
and Guess what?!!! the water is Free ..
Donkeys!!
the most richest county may get hydrogen power plant
Why not use water to create the hydrogen instead of natural gas?
We need to learn to harness the power of flatulence. In fact, just last night, I’m sure I expelled enough foul smelling gas to power downtown Manhattan for at least ten minutes. I envision a day when everyone will fart in unity and harmony and produce clean (well, sort of) renewable energy. I am sure this would please Andy.
Very cool technology, now all to be done is to improve it and make it cheaper. Plus makes sure every corner of the planet can produce large amounts of energy, very cleanly and very cheaply as well.
As make sure every coner of the planet can afford it and use it. It’s going to take everyone to solve the global issue…..
Afford? Hmm. The US loves it’s patents, so the cost goes up right there, next is the exorbitant pay demanded by US employees who make these things (nobody works for free and the US workers weekly take home is just below the annual income of a rural botswanian native), and lastly comes the exotic fabricated materials used in these designs which are uncommon in 3rd world countries.
Nobody can ‘AFFORD’ these things, you either have or you do not have the money for these new developments.
Not yet, but things do decrease in cost as time goes by. I was not talking about the near future, but more as the far future. Plus I feel as rich countrys, we should have a dutie of helping the poorer countrys, first it’s the right thing to do, plus by helping others, it does come back in a loop and help you as well, (if I need to feed people selfish desires as well), if you think logically and unemotionally about it. Personally, I’m totaly for any development in allternative energy.
But the other way is to keep using oil and fossil fuel to it runs out, or gets more expensive and not care, as it suites us at the moment. Personally I find that raver short sighted, plus a tad selfish as well. People might not care, but you usally find, later or sooner, that crap starts to hit the fan. Alternative fuels could later on lead to cheaper fuel, less enviromental problems and a country been more independent for it self, there well worth developing
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Close your eyes and listen to the guy in the beginning doesn’t he sound like a women.
that little solar thing in the beginning made me think…why not make wind turbines with solar panels for that extra little energy, that is if cost did not outweigh the amount needed?
then hydrogen is not fuel. It is energy trasporter.
mmmmna — Nobody can ‘AFFORD’ these things, you either have or you do not have the money for these new developments.
Not if it produces more electricity than it requires and results in no pollution.
What do you propose to do with nuclear waste? There are many problems with nuclear power proponents like you love to gloss over.
So you still need natural gas….you just don’t burn it. Natural gas reserves are high but finite.